Comments on: Let’s try this… http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/ Golf in the Lower Hudson Valley, from high schools to the pros Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:42:02 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: son of Sam Snead http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/comment-page-1/#comment-1617 son of Sam Snead Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:51:08 +0000 http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/#comment-1617 Most of the serious sandbagging goes on when the club pro is in the pocket of a few members who are either in on it, or are best friends with the sandbaggers. Members fire and hire pros all day long. What club pro wants to make an enemy by taking a stand against a member? The real problem is that at many clubs with sandbagging problems (like the club high on a hill that claims to be among the country's oldest) the biggest sandbaggers are themselves club governors....who make the hire/fire decision, so the pro has their back. Most of the serious sandbagging goes on when the club pro is in the pocket of a few members who are either in on it, or are best friends with the sandbaggers.

Members fire and hire pros all day long. What club pro wants to make an enemy by taking a stand against a member? The real problem is that at many clubs with sandbagging problems (like the club high on a hill that claims to be among the country’s oldest) the biggest sandbaggers are themselves club governors….who make the hire/fire decision, so the pro has their back.

]]> By: Alex Myers http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/comment-page-1/#comment-1599 Alex Myers Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:06:01 +0000 http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/#comment-1599 Wow, those are two incredible stories. What a scam that one guy tried to pull! To answer one question, I guess these guys can remain members as long as they are able to spread out their efforts to hustle members to the point where no one member is getting seriously hurt. Maybe certain members feel bad that they take to doing that or maybe some people can even get a kick out of them. But the sandbaggers themselves certainly aren't worried about their image because they obviously have no shame when fluffing up their handicaps. The whole purpose of the handicap system is to create a way to make things interesting amongst players of different skills. Is the system perfect? No, but it's pretty darn good. For example, the other day a Journal News buddy and myself each shot a career-best round. With me giving him nearly a shot a hole, I wound up having to make a 10-foot birdie putt on No. 18 just to push the hole and win the match 1-up, which made for an even more exciting round. The bottom line is that you should enter your scores and let your handicap come out where it may (They came out again today and unfortunately, I'll have to give a few more strokes to the normal crew for at least the near future.). It's a good way to liven up a round and a tangible way to track your progress as a golfer. If there are any other ulterior motives, then you're just plain missing the point. Wow, those are two incredible stories. What a scam that one guy tried to pull!

To answer one question, I guess these guys can remain members as long as they are able to spread out their efforts to hustle members to the point where no one member is getting seriously hurt. Maybe certain members feel bad that they take to doing that or maybe some people can even get a kick out of them. But the sandbaggers themselves certainly aren’t worried about their image because they obviously have no shame when fluffing up their handicaps.

The whole purpose of the handicap system is to create a way to make things interesting amongst players of different skills. Is the system perfect? No, but it’s pretty darn good. For example, the other day a Journal News buddy and myself each shot a career-best round. With me giving him nearly a shot a hole, I wound up having to make a 10-foot birdie putt on No. 18 just to push the hole and win the match 1-up, which made for an even more exciting round.

The bottom line is that you should enter your scores and let your handicap come out where it may (They came out again today and unfortunately, I’ll have to give a few more strokes to the normal crew for at least the near future.). It’s a good way to liven up a round and a tangible way to track your progress as a golfer. If there are any other ulterior motives, then you’re just plain missing the point.

]]> By: mr loser http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/comment-page-1/#comment-1592 mr loser Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:39:44 +0000 http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/#comment-1592 I once played in a member-guest at a local club and all the members knew who the sandbaggers were. there was parimutuel betting on the flights (winning tickets divide up the pot) and there were 2 teams that won and had $2 win tickets pay $2.10!!! the pro said it was because almost ALL the money bet in the flight was bet on the sandbaggers, so there was nobody else's money to pay off with!!! how do such cheaters remain members? dont the other members get sick of losing to them, knowing its like betting against loaded dice. I once played in a member-guest at a local club and all the members knew who the sandbaggers were.

there was parimutuel betting on the flights (winning tickets divide up the pot) and there were 2 teams that won and had $2 win tickets pay $2.10!!! the pro said it was because almost ALL the money bet in the flight was bet on the sandbaggers, so there was nobody else’s money to pay off with!!!

how do such cheaters remain members? dont the other members get sick of losing to them, knowing its like betting against loaded dice.

]]> By: Joe G http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/comment-page-1/#comment-1590 Joe G Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:06:27 +0000 http://golf.lohudblogs.com/2008/08/18/lets-try-this/#comment-1590 Hey Alex, I got a story for you. I was playing in this net handicaped tournament down in South Carolina with my buddy, and one guy comes in with a 67 with a 9 handicap! They go look at his handicap card again and the Golf Professional that signed it has been out of the golf buissness for at least 3 years and now lives in Scotland! Obviously, he was DQed. I thought that was an intresting story, so i decided to share. Regards, Joe Hey Alex, I got a story for you. I was playing in this net handicaped tournament down in South Carolina with my buddy, and one guy comes in with a 67 with a 9 handicap! They go look at his handicap card again and the Golf Professional that signed it has been out of the golf buissness for at least 3 years and now lives in Scotland! Obviously, he was DQed. I thought that was an intresting story, so i decided to share.
Regards,
Joe

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